So we are driving our newish van into a blizzard

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01/19/2019 at 11:30 • Filed to: None

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Driving from MA to NH tonight into the big storm so we can go skiing on Sunday. Van new in April, and I hadn’t the budget or time yet to get snow tires... I figured if there was one time to hurry along my purchase it would be the day before we drive straight into 2 feet of snow to get to the ski area (Wildcat in Jackson NH, basically Mt. Washington). So... last night I called around a few places and the only set of 4 I could find locally had Sumitomo Ice Edge. These things are BEASTS!!! I was already excited to go skiing in the blizzard, now I’m excited about getting there too (instead of dreading it a little...). Good thing I can install my own tires at home, because there was no way I could have pulled this off otherwise. And knowing NH Rt. 16 approaching Wildcat, I’m not sure we would get there without the snows!


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Kinja'd!!! winterlegacy, here 'till the end > deekster_caddy
01/19/2019 at 11:58

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Meanwhile, I still run my all-seasons because I’m cheap and don’t have the money to throw at a dedicated pair of snows.


Kinja'd!!! jimz > winterlegacy, here 'till the end
01/19/2019 at 12:54

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“ all-season” encompasses a wide range.

this all-season tire would be terrible in snow:

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this one, due to the much higher number of sipes in the tread blocks, would be better in snow:

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both, of course, are vastly inferior to a real winter tire.  I’m going to find out how much, though; my Winterforces wore out  last year and I just have Destination LE2 all-seasons on right now. 


Kinja'd!!! deekster_caddy > winterlegacy, here 'till the end
01/19/2019 at 12:55

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Just remember that using snow tires in the winter will make your all seasons last longer! And reduce your costs from that accident. And lets you go for a high performance summer tire for the other 3 seasons, because you no longer have to worry about mediocre all seasons! So it’s cheap to get snow tires!


Kinja'd!!! deekster_caddy > jimz
01/19/2019 at 12:59

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I have Destination LE2s on my ‘73 Buick. Driving home from the NY Oppo Meetup a couple years ago through several inches of mushy snow was no problem at all. I wouldn’t hesitate to recommend them as an all season. Sure beats that time I had bald tires on the ‘73 driving into a snowstorm very similar to what we are about to do tonight... I started to skid out of the driven tracks in the snow on a curving downhill road. The tail see-sawed back and forth for about 1/2 mile and it took every ounce of driving skill I had to keep it on the road. Too much throttle and it would pass the front. Not enough and it would snap to the other side. It was all I could manage to keep the front tires in the ruts with cars coming the other direction only a few feet away and trees flying by on the other side... an adventure me and my passengers will never forget!


Kinja'd!!! facw > jimz
01/19/2019 at 13:04

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Option #2 looks like a Michelin Premier A/S (aka what I had on my car before the Pilot Sport A/S 3+), and I was actually pretty impressed by how they did in the snow. Wasn’t really impressed by how they did anything else, but they felt pretty confident as long as the (heavy, wet) snow wasn’t too deep. Did still take me over an hour to make a drive that usually takes 20 minutes, but I was going faster than 90% of the cars on the road, and I’m sure some of those had real snow tires).    


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01/19/2019 at 13:42

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And then you have a hybrid like this. While it’s technically an “all season”, Nokian really means it when they say ALL. Meets the European standard for all weather so it’s actually tested in the snow the same as a real snow tire. I’ve driven it in untreated snow/ice and so far am impressed. I don't live in a place that sees snow or even Temps below 40 ever so a real snow tire is useless. But this thing really works and hasn't melted yet so I'm happy. 


Kinja'd!!! winterlegacy, here 'till the end > jimz
01/19/2019 at 19:24

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I just have cheap nobody tires with super low amounts of sipin g. They might as well be three-season tires.


Kinja'd!!! winterlegacy, here 'till the end > deekster_caddy
01/19/2019 at 19:26

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Can’t have an accident if you don’t drive fast enough to have one.

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Kinja'd!!! deekster_caddy > winterlegacy, here 'till the end
01/19/2019 at 21:24

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This is true. I still leave more follow distance than others around me in the snow and have learned over the years to keep my speed well in check when the roads get slick. However, I still need to get up some steep hills.


Kinja'd!!! winterlegacy, here 'till the end > deekster_caddy
01/19/2019 at 23:44

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If the roads are bad, I keep up to six car lengths away from someone in front of me.

If I need to stop, I’m basically guaranteed to be able to stop safely.